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 Post subject: Stealing from a KOed Opponent in RP?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:49 pm 
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I was wondering how feasible it would be.

Scenario: I accept a task to acquire an item on an NPC, the only conceivable way of getting the item is to kill the NPC. Maybe my character doesn't like killing, so he subdues his opponent, stunning him, knocking him out, etc. However, he can't take the item off the NPC, because it's still alive.

Once an NPC gets KOed/immobilized, wouldn't it make more sense to then allow a player to steal/take from the NPC, as if it were a container?

It's probably crossed someones mind at some point, but I thought I'd bring it up here, and see what the opinion is.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:23 pm 
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Back in the day, I've seen this done a lot with mages. Hell, I've even done it myself quite a few times :P

Picture this:

Mage selects a target, let's say it's a pretty beefy NPC that's about the same level.
Mage carefully tries to paralyze the NPC (I used to do this while invisible if they couldn't see invis).
Mage types 'steal sword knight' and gets the item.

I used to see a message sort of like:
You unequip and take a silver longsword from a silver knight. (if he was wearing it)
Got it! (if it was in their inventory)

Although I could never pull it off, I've seen it done on players too. The bad part about that approach is that paralyze doesn't seem to have that high of a success rate sometimes. If the mob can see invis, that makes it all that much worse. Imagine being a level 99 mage trying to paralyze a demon lord because he loaded something neat... You fail, he sees your invisible butt and starts wailing on you. Not pretty! :P

As far as knocking out opponents, I don't know of a current way of doing this other than paralyze/stunning blow/hyder kick. Perhaps a skill could be introduced that could let you sap someone in back of the head and knock 'em out cold. If you miss the skill check, you hit their shoulder or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Stealing from a KOed Opponent in RP?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:04 pm 
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Well, I figured I could combat my opponent to the point he was lying there stunned/mortally wounded, take the item, and either leave em for dead, or find a way to heal them just enough that their natural regen keeps them alive.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:35 am 
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Vulsin wrote:
...Although I could never pull it off, I've seen it done on players too. The bad part about that approach is that paralyze doesn't seem to have that high of a success rate sometimes...


Hmm, I thought this was a less known about effect. Anyway, it isn't that hard to do. I paralyzed a 101 or 102 barbarian with my 100 mage. I then stole his boots (might have been sword), dispelled him, and ran away (I later gave them back).

Since paralyze is concentrate (or it was anyway) your player targets have NO idea it is coming. It took me like 10 tries, but I got him.


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