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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:58 pm 
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I have to agree with Efori, people HAVE been playing more than in the past, the changes were starting to pump people up to play more. But i understand your time is limited Nezmar, i feel like you feel that you just dont have the time to put into DL anymore, like im sure that coin change code wasn't finished yet but people were complaining and it just took you over the edge. Maybe you feel that since you don't have the time to make DL as good as you want to, it would just be better to get rid of it. But i strongly think the game should remain open to those who still want to play. Myself.. Efori, Mahrin, Strigmon. I know that i have given you alot of ideas in the past, and almost all of my ideas you put into the game which was awesome. I hope i didn't seem like i was being pushy or complaining, even if DL had a million bugs i would still love to play it. I was totally fine when the game went a week or more without a reboot cause you were busy, i think everyone understood that. As far as continuing DL goes, cant you just say nezmar that, "The game is what it is right now, if you want to play, play. I dont have time to invest into it anymore and it might be nonadministrative so to speak. I think the players that are left can sustain themselves in the game, it's nice to have staff on to take care of stuff but we can do that for ourselves. I'm sorry I'm rambling i just want to play again


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:55 pm 
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I would keep playing as I had been, as well as a handful of others. I urge you Nezmar to let us play. We'll stop about the code changes and demands about gear restring or house concerns. People just want to play. If you are still unsure about whatever about people playing, put the builder back up and let people have builders again. Even new people, if you approve them, those who will build will help them out with any questions. I'd rather build right now knowing one day you'll put DL back up. It'd be good to see you stop by in a relaxed manner to check in on how things are going. I can remember playing middle of the day and there would be stuff going on and you'd have to say "sorry, I have to go make some money right now, be back." We understand that your opportunities are demanding. If we could build again I think the main concentration should be finishing zones with all the gear, not macros and things that are more time demanding. When you are ready, we could then ask questions about macros etc. Hopefully people would return to do some building and learn that aspect of DL to better appreciate all the hard work that you and others in the past have put into it.


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:21 am 
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To me, you just pointed out a large number of the problems with DL and your priorities illustrate a significant part of my frustration. I started to write out a response but in the end, I come back to why bother, it's just wasted time, I have better things to do. This just becomes another exercise in frustration.

--Nezmar


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:23 pm 
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After some further consideration, I've decided to put the RP edition (port 4444, I believe) back up (at least for the time being). Please don't expect me to spend a lot of time there (just as I don't expect it from you -- though it would be nice to see it used and not abused).

Best regards to all,

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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Although I am not an RPer I want to thank you, Tommy, for putting the RP site back up for those who will play on it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:21 pm 
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Yes, oh my god thank you! It feels very good just to be able to walk the roads of Turien again! Hope to see you!


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:12 am 
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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:26 am 
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You know.. with my boxing class, work and BJJ classes my time is soooo limited. But if the rp version were fixed and corrected. I'd be more than happy to blow off a few weekend "get togethers" and even time on the weekdays to play.

I just dont see the rp version doing DL any justice. The 1 death thing doesn't work with the way DL is set up. The auto stat picker doesn't give you the joy anymore. With that choice, you get the joy of being able to create who you want to create. That's just another bonus about playing in DL. DL has it's own ways of doing things and it worked out. I tried to stop these from coming into the rp version when it was being set up. Sadly, I was just ....(ignore isn't the word, but close enough) and told "It will work. That's how RP is done." by a few staff members. When I played, those things completely got people turned off from the RP version. Also the fact that people these days are completely focused on getting lvls and eq to be the biggest player. This also hurts DL when it comes to rp. You had people camping field hands for exp. Next thing you know, everyone will be back to camping a group of mobs and never getting into anything else, afk/camping.

It's cool RP is opened for now, but... it's like a tease. Unless those and some other things can change in RP DL, it doesn't give what people have done with this game any justice.

Also, if DL were to stay up. The way staff is working now with adding new eq and areas is making players WAY to uber. Yes its good for the new zones but then you've got the rest of the game to play with still. You've got healing flasks that completely toss out a healer in a group. You've got mirrors that make Mages look useless. These things are about as rare as bread. People walking around with 60+ stops on all (prolly 70 or 80+). People making 1 peice of eq to cancel an entire class out. Back in the day, these types of things were tossed out and not approved because things would get out of hand. Now it's like the people who wanted them back in the day are the ones who get to say "yes or no" and they pick the answer they wanted years ago. With these being in DL these days it turned this MUD into a hack-n-slash-afk-camping playground. Which is not newbie friendly, not player friendly and not fun at all.

I'm just venting. I've said over and over how DL has helped my life out and helped me get to where I am right now and thats something that will never be taken away.


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:29 am 
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Trust me, if RP DL was corrected. I'm sure a lot of others, myself included would be all over that place. I'd get to show some of these punks :eek3: the rp i learned from the CoD and Conflict era.


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:41 am 
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Well not all agree with you Nas, but then thats the thing everyone finds their own aspect of DL that they love and enjoy.

Now as far as the RP DL goes, I'm happy with it to get my daily dose of DL. Yeah havn't had a character die on it yet, but its better then nothing.

Choice be said. I would like to have the old DL back, heck move my builder to it and let me balance my zone and a few others, plus I think I'd have to tweak a few of the mobs cause surely Fireshield was way over powered.

Otherwise I'm happy with the coin system, really with all the changes and such perhaps we were overdue for a second player wipe.

That being said, I still have tons of zones started/planned for DL many of which would balance out the future no quest DL. Plus then we really get to imagine what to do/create to make endgame content well challenging.

Anyways, thanks for putting the RP DL up Nezmar.

As most know I'm not a huge fan of RP overall, well perhaps in a few select circumstances, but I say better this way then not at all.

Sol, Sylvar, Vaerg, Sylvius, Ron.


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:35 pm 
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A couple of changes on the RP server...

You can now roll character stats again.

Also, now we don't have any Staff at all. Nobody will mess with you from a Staff perspective. Staff will not be planning or taking place in any RPs. Roleplaying (and playing in general) is entirely left to the players.

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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:24 am 
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That's cool, I'm sure people will be happy to roll stats. I planned on making a barb with 22 nat str and 3-4 nat int or wis. Then a ninja with a very,very high nat luck but crappy dex. Like Chris Farley in Beverly Hills Ninja. a lot more too and not being able to roll wouldn't allow me to do so.

Hopefully with no staff SOME people won't go crazy and make an rp fool of themseleves.. Lvls and eq aren't everything!!


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:41 pm 
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I can't break my habit of voting every morning.


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:49 pm 
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I smell a full eq/armor/item and house purge happening. I think if DL the full purge of eq, houses, coins etc would be a challenge, but keep our levels we've worked so hard to obtain on all our chars. I'd love to be high level trying to get all that gear back. Having to gear up with lesser items to work towards getting up there again.

Once those above proposed fixes were made of course. So it'd probably be a while before Nezmar even considered bringing back DL. Maybe a DL3? Who knows. It's all up to Nezmar, it's his baby.

Thanks a ton for the rp server. I've killed off a handful already and hoping to not do so as often.


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 Post subject: Re: I've Given Up
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:06 pm 
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Oh really?

If we are going to do that my vote is a full pwipe for main game, and giving me (Sol) rights to re-balance my zone and a few of the newer zones. That way when your high enough to get the gear its changed.

Plus I think the level/quest change is sufficient of a change that a pwipe would be in order if the hack and slash version came back live.

Just my thoughts.

Sol, Sylvar, Sylvius, Vaerg, Ron.


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